He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Zion And Jerusalem, February 22, 2013

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

(New Testament | Matthew 12:30)

One apostate, traitor and dissenter from the Church of Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints shot at me, and send me a letter and asked me in Garamond words or deceptive letters with intent to entrap me, Miguel Tinoco are you a Christian? And then he said and finally he aswered his own questions:

“Miguel Tinoco,

Are You a Christian?

            To the non-Christian and pseudo-Christian, this would seem like a specious question.  However to those who are truly a part of the authentic Christian community, the question makes sense. To those outside the authentic Christian community this will appear to be Christian denominational infighting over our beliefs.

            As a ex-Mormon Elder, who received his endowments and was sealed in the Salt Lake Temple, let me give you an example of what I mean by contrasting “pseudo-Christian” with authentic Christians.  I, like most of you, have ridden on commercial airliners many times. Most times, I got a peek at the cockpit with its numerous gauges, screens and controls.  We all would agree that having this level of experience would not entitle me to claim that “I am an airline pilot”.  Likewise, there are literally tens of millions of Americans who have only sat in church and peeked at the scripture known as the Bible.  If asked to identify the basic doctrines that define the authentic Christian church across all denominational lines, they would be hard put to come up with just one. Yet if asked “are you a Christian” they would quickly respond that “Yes”, however they are no more Christian than I am an airline pilot.

            Then the next question is obviously what must one believe to be an authentic Christian? The web site www.christianity.com offers the following to answer the question.             

Essential Christianity

            “When we talk about the essentials of Christianity we're referring to the basic elements that make up and characterize our faith, and which, of course, separate it from other beliefs.  Let's survey these doctrines. What does a person need to believe in order to rightly be called a Christian?

            First, we believe in the authority of Scripture, which is another way of saying that the Bible is God's inspired, infallible, and inerrant Word. It's the ultimate source for knowledge about God, as well as the definitive guide for our daily lives.
            Next we affirm the existence of a triune God or one God in three distinct persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  This God is self-existent, eternal, unchanging, omnipotent, omnipresent, holy, righteous, and loving.  God created the universe from nothing and He rules sovereign over His creation, including both human and angelic beings.
            We also hold that man is a physical and spiritual being who is created in God's image. But because of his sin or transgression, man has lost his fellowship with God.  The extent of sin is so great that its effects continue to this very day in the form of cruelty, sickness, suffering, and death.
            By God's grace, Jesus Christ - Who is fully God and fully man - was sent to save us from our bondage to sin. We believe that Christ was born of a virgin, died for our sins, physically rose from the dead, and will one day return to judge the world and deliver His people. Faith in Christ alone (not faith + works) is the only means by which an individual can escape eternal damnation and judgment.
            Finally, we recognize the church as God's ordained institution headed by Christ. The church is composed of all believers, and is organized for teaching, worship, fellowship, for the administration of communion and baptism, for spiritual growth and support, and for evangelizing the world. True believers seek to be part of local church assemblies where the Word of God is taught accurately.”

            This definition will stand up across authentic Christian denominations worldwide. While this definition doesn’t state it, authentic Christianity comes only after the transforming experience of being “Born Again”.  Christ responds to Nicodemus in John 3:3 “I tell you the truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God unless he is born again.” And He further drives the point home in 5-7: “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born of the water and of the Spirit.  Flesh gives birth to flesh but the Spirit gives birth to the Spirit.  You should not be surprised at my saying ‘You must be born again’…”                                                                                                     Does LDS (Mormon) Church doctrine fall within this definition?  Unfortunately for the followers of Joseph Smith, the LDS Church founder, it does not. In fact not one of the basic Mormon doctrines match the above definition.  The following are but a few of the LDS Church beliefs:

            God is a being with flesh and bones and rules exclusively Earth.                 

            Mormonism teaches that there are many Gods. Three of them at The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit:

            "Three separate personages---Father, Son, and Holy Ghost---comprise the Godhead...As each of these persons is a God, it is evident from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists. To us...these three are the only Gods we worship."  (Mormon Apostle Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.576-577).

            God once was a man on a planet somewhere in the universe who, through righteous Mormon living, entered into a state of exaltation after dying and arriving in the Celestial Kingdom.  As he matured through exaltations he achieved Godhood and was assigned the planet Earth to create a plan of salvation and populate with his spirit babies that were born from his many wives who shared the Celestial Kingdom with him.

            “As man is God once was, As God is man may become.” Lorenzo Snow, LDS        Prophet , 1898-1901

            Mormonism teaches that Jesus and Lucifer both sons of God and are brothers.

            They believe that they are the only “True Church” and that salvation can only come through living a righteous Mormon life. They believe that the Christian teaching of salvation by grace is in error. The following is a quote from the LDS pamphlet “What Mormons think of Christ”:

            “Christians speak often of the blood of Christ and its cleansing power. Much that is believed and taught on this subject, however, is such utter nonsense and so palpably false that to believe it is to lose one’s salvation. For instance, many believe or pretend to believe, that if we confess Christ with our lips and avow that we accept him as our personal Savior, we are thereby saved. They say that *his blood, without any other act than mere belief, makes us clean.”

            Mormons point to their “Articles of Faith” as their basic doctrine statement.  However these articles do not state any of the basic Mormon beliefs that form their foundational teachings.  Even so, articles 3 and 8 forever separate the LDS Church from authentic Christianity:

                        Article 3.  We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind                               may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

            This Article is denying salvation by Grace and teaching salvation by deeds or “works” in the Christian vernacular.  

                        Article 8.  We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is   translated correctly; we also believe The Book of Mormon to be the word                          of God.

            This Article gives the Book of Mormon a superior position to all the Bible translations used by the authentic Christian Church.

            These are just the tip of the Mormon iceberg but show the foundation for my question “Miguel Tinoco, are you a Christian?” In a word the answer is NO!  .                                                       Go to web sites like www.saintsalive.com  or www.mormoninfo.org  or www.ericbarger.com and read Actual Mormon documents that forever separate the LDS Church from authentic Christianity.

Claude H. O’Donovan     

Claude O'Donovan”

 

And I Miguel Angel Tinoco, knowing how angels fire at filthy souls Replied to him in Verdana or truthful words:

Claude O'Donovan

Are you kidding me? Can’t you read or are you only amused by your vague reasoning about what Christianity is all about?  I read what you sent me, or your article entirely and it does not eve come close to explain what Christianity is all about. Your carnal reasoning will not get you into heaven.  For you are of the precise kind of which the LORD will say: Depart from me you evil doers, for I knew you not. These things that you preach are doctrines of men and old sectarian beliefs. Have you forgotten that Lords sayings? The LORD does not put new wine in old barrels, nor does he put a new patch of cloth in an old garment.  The gentiles commonly say that you cannot teach an old dog  a new trick. You are deaf, blind, mute and naked. Don’t you know that I am built upon the rock of Eternity, even Jesus Christ?

O ye wicked and ye perverse generation; ye hardened and ye stiffnecked people, how long will ye suppose that the Lord will suffer you?  Yea, how long will ye suffer yourselves to be led by foolish and blind guides?  Yea, how long will ye choose darkness rather than light?

(Book of Mormon | Helaman 13:29)

Well, to answer your question, the last time I checked I was and I think I am still a Christian even soaked to the bones and marrow, for I live and breath the pure doctrine of Christ, which is Faith in the LORD Jesus Christ and all his merits, Repentance, Baptism for immersion for the remission of sins, and the bestowal of the gift of the Holy Ghost by the lying o hands under those who have proper authority.  But you believe that Christ came to save us in our sins and nor from our sins like a common antichrist who by sitting on his lees, thinks that God will not do good or evil. The prophet Zephaniah spoke about people like you who departed from the LORD and did not return to him, nor enquired of him. Here are two bullets, even the words of Zephaniah:

And them that are turned back from the LORD; and those that have not sought the LORD, nor enquired for him.

(Old Testament | Zephaniah 1:6)

And it shall come to pass at that time, that I will search Jerusalem with candles, and punish the men that are settled on their lees: that say in their heart, The LORD will not do good, neither will he do evil.

(Old Testament | Zephaniah 1:12)

I have detected the devil in you old man; and you will not make it. I see a twice dead man in you unless you speedily repent and amend your ways. You feel your mouth by saying that you are an Ex-Mormon as if that gave you any authority. All you are saying is that you are an apostate and a traitor who preaches the doctrines of men to justify your lack of integrity or for betraying the LORD. You look white and beautiful in the outside like a whited sepulcher, but are full of iniquity and dead man’s bone in the inside. 

Faith, repentance and baptism and the bestowal of the gift of the holy Ghost by the lying of hands and endurance in faithfulness to all the commandments the end is the pure doctrine of Christ. And I and my brethren in the Church of Jess Christ, like Abraham, the father of the faithful are doing the works of our Father Abraham and following the example of Jesus Christ. We are or desire to be better followers of righteousness and to keep the commandments like Abraham.  We endeavor to practice true religion and not the dogmatic rhetoric that you fancifully mention in your article.   How dare you put words in my behalf without proper authority and say that I am not A Christian? Can’t you tell that I believe in Jesus Christ, the son of the Living God? And that I received this testimony after I was born again many years after my church conversion And confirmation. 

And I also believe in his church which also carries his very own name and in his apostles and prophets who along with me do not do anything but, talk of Christ, teach of Christ, write about Christ and prophesy about Christ so that we an our children know the source of our salvation.  Is that what you teach? I do not think so because the truth is not in you. You are a son of Belial, like the wicked sons of the High Priest Eli in the days of Samuel. And you go on fornicating with ex temple maids and what you do is to teach the doctrines of your father the devil.

Now this is what we know and do.

And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 25:26)

Furthermore, Old man, the scriptures we search and study are the testaments of Jesus Christ thru his servants the prophets and the doctrine of Christ we live, we breath and teach us all to be like unto him or more Christ like for there is no other name under heaven by which salvation comes. We are his witnesses, in all things, in all places, at all times and everywhere even unto death. And the religion that we live is not to like yours to talk about other people’s faith, finding fault and criticizing us for the moth in our eyes, when you are hypocritically overlooking the gross bean covering your own eyes. 

And as you we do not so much brag about pseudo doctrines as you call them, but undertake to mourn with those that mourn, to visit and assist the widow and the fatherless,  and succor all those who are in need.  Everything else we teach and which you citizens as an apostate is an appendix to this. If you had the Holy Spirit in you, or the truth as you falsely claim, you would have believed in Christ, but since you don’t you are the opposite, even and anti Christ. It would have been better for you to have never know the gospel of Jesus Christ or known him, for you are worst today than in the beginning, even before you knew us. Can’t you tell that you dwell or that you have built your faith in an old sectarian notion that the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost are three in one? And because you do not know the Son, you cannot know the Father; and the father will not send you the Holy Ghost that bears witness of the Father and of the Son, unless you exercise faith in Christ, repent and be re-baptized in his true Church. But you are passed the point of no return. For the LORD has said:

Yea, wo be unto him that hearkeneth unto the precepts of men, and denieth the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost! Yea, wo be unto him that saith: We have received, and we need no more! And in fine, wo unto all those who tremble, and are angry because of the truth of God!  For behold, he that is built upon the rock receiveth it with gladness; and he that is built upon a sandy foundation trembleth lest he shall fall. Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough! For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have.

Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm, or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be given by the power of the Holy Ghost. Wo be unto the Gentiles, saith the Lord God of Hosts!  For notwithstanding I shall lengthen out mine arm unto them from day to day, they will deny me; nevertheless, I will be merciful unto them, saith the Lord God, if they will repent and come unto me; for mine arm is lengthened out all the day long, saith the Lord God of Hosts.

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 28:26 - 32)

And unless you do this, which is to repent and comeback to the LORD immediately, all whatsoever you teach or preach will be the wisdom of the carnal mind. And all those words will be used against you in the day of judgment when you face, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost and all these things that I have written you.   What you think you know will lead you to o where. You cannot bear good fruits. And your reward is assured in the living hell for perverting the right ways of the LORD. And it is a shame that you are so old, and you wasted your life in the pursuit of those things that you could not obtain.

And these are the principles of my faith that you overlooked thinking that with old age and sectarian beliefs you will outsmart a true and living disciple, prophet and servant of the living GOD. And my priesthood has no father and mother, for it has no beginning of days or end of years; therefore, this ageless power is going to send you to your grave. For you are kicking against the pricks and know not against whom you fight?  For the doctrines that you have rejected are the ones who will be used against you in the Day of Judgment.

Behold, here are the waters of Mormon (for thus were they called) and now, as ye are desirous to come into the fold of God, and to be called his people, and are willing to bear one another's burdens, that they may be light; Yea, and are willing to mourn with those that mourn; yea, and comfort those that stand in need of comfort, and to stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places that ye may be in, even until death, that ye may be redeemed of God, and be numbered with those of the first resurrection, that ye may have eternal life— Now I say unto you, if this be the desire of your hearts, what have you against being baptized in the name of the Lord, as a witness before him that ye have entered into a covenant with him, that ye will serve him and keep his commandments, that he may pour out his Spirit more abundantly upon you? And now when the people had heard these words, they clapped their hands for joy, and exclaimed: This is the desire of our hearts.

(Book of Mormon | Mosiah 18:8 - 11)

Blessed are ye if ye shall give heed unto the words of these twelve whom I have chosen from among you to minister unto you, and to be your servants; and unto them I have given power that they may baptize you with water; and after that ye are baptized with water, behold, I will baptize you with fire and with the Holy Ghost; therefore blessed are ye if ye shall believe in me and be baptized, after that ye have seen me and know that I am.

(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 12:1)

And this is the word which he hath given unto the children of men.  And for this cause he fulfilleth the words which he hath given, and he lieth not, but fulfilleth all his words. And no unclean thing can enter into his kingdom; therefore nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood, because of their faith, and the repentance of all their sins, and their faithfulness unto the end.

Now this is the commandment: Repent, all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day. Verily, verily, I say unto you, this is my gospel; and ye know the things that ye must do in my church; for the works which ye have seen me do that shall ye also do; for that which ye have seen me do even that shall ye do; Therefore, if ye do these things blessed are ye, for ye shall be lifted up at the last day.

(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 27:18 - 22)

And unless you do these things and live by them, anything more or less than this comes from evil. You will never come close to know God unless you do these things.  Therefore do not try to teach me your cheap philosophies for I am sent to teach and not to be taught. And this is how angels fire at filthy souls.  For whosoever does not gather with the Lord, scatters.

Depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity; for the LORD hath heard the voice of my weeping. The LORD hath heard my supplication; the LORD will receive my prayer. Let all mine enemies be ashamed and sore vexed: let them return and be ashamed suddenly.

(Old Testament | Psalms 6:8 - 10)

When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

(New Testament | Luke 13:25 - 28)

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?  and in thy name have cast out devils?  and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

(New Testament | Matthew 7:21 - 25)

The LORD will not let any of my words fall on earth. Perhaps this will answer your questions and satisfy your lust and concupiscence.  And yes, I am a Christian, more than anyone you ever knew. Now these things I say not of my self but as a witness of Jesus Christ and in his Holy and sacred name I declare them, even as one having authority in his Holy name, amen.

Old man, you have been served you death warrant or words that will haunt you until the day you die and beyond. And they have been delivered by a servant in the hands of Christ, amen.

Miguel Angel Tinoco Rodriguez.