THE NATIVITY
Zion and Jerusalem, December 17, 2013
Hosanna
to the Lord, the most high God; for he is God over all the earth, yea, even
above all.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 11:6)
· Today
10:45am
I don't think anyone questions the LDS Church teaching that Jesus was divine. The problem is what kind of god is the LDS Jesus? He is simply one of many gods who have existed and will exist after him. He is one of three separate gods who are gods of this earth. Instead of being Satan's Creator, as the Bible teaches, Jesus, like Lucifer/Satan is also a spirit born to heavenly parents. This is not the Jesus of the Bible or historic Christianity. This link talks more about the LDS view of Christ
Miguel
Angel Tinoco Replied to the institute of Religious
Research
I feel to tell you that the difference
is much simpler than that. We claim that
we know Jesus the Christ, the only begotten son of the Father in the flesh,
even the son of the man of holiness, Elohim, the Living GOD, while you claim to
know about him by what is written about him. You are so faithless that you cannot believe
unless a sing or proof is show unto you. And that only attest to the spirit of
idolatry or adultery that is in you.
In other words, you do no rely on
revelation for your faith is not built in sure foundation but in a sandy or windy one. In This is why you dig
the dust of those who have died to know about Christ while we only incline the
ear to listen to him every day for his words and his works never cease. In other words, it is easier for you to believe in dead prophets
than in the living ones. I AM prompts me to tell you that I AM one of them.
Please, answer me this question
if you can; which is better, to know about GOD or to know Him?
I, Michael the Archangel
know him, for I have seen the LORD as he is. I was with him during his atoning sacrifice as
an angel comforting him. And I also saw
him when he was taken to Golgotha, the place
of the skulls when he fell at the feet of the centurion. He grabbed my hand
while he was on the floor and he commissioned me to take over and hold on to his
scepter of power until he comes to grab it back. Then, I saw him not long ago, gliding in the
wind coming toward me and I fell at his feet, and he bade me to follow him
which I did and still do. He is my FATHER FOR of him I was born. I have also
heard the voices of both the Father and of the Son of GOD which sound like the rolling
thunder and the rushing of many waters. I bear witness of both the Father and
of the Son and of the truth of all things, more particularly of his everlasting gospel.
My
knowledge comes directly from God and I do not need always to rely in the knowledge
of other men for I do not build my faith in other’s men foundation. I cannot
even account for the countless times that he has come near to me and I have not
noticed it until he has departed. And if
the LORD does speak to me often, the chief sinner among my brethren; and the smallest
in his kingdom, how much more would not he speak to his living apostles and
prophets who lead his only true and living church? I
have been preaching his everlasting gospel for seven continuous years in
solitude. I have a continual relationship with the LORD Jesus Christ; and I do
not only have power to speak in his name but I also act with the authority of
our Father in heaven for both the Glory or the Father and of the Son. I need
him every hour; and he is quick to correct me and rebuke me. And despite my
weakness and low degree of education, I act as his messenger often. And if him I say with a borrowed mouth:
Hosanna to the Lord, the most high God; for he is God over all the earth, yea, even above all.(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 11:6)
Whether I have stood in his
presence in the flesh or in the spirit I cannot tell you. But this I can tell you;
and it is that I have a testimony of his divinity. I know his divine birth, or that
he is not the son of Joseph as the Jews of his day claimed; or of the Holy
Ghost as many of the Christians claim today, but that HE IS the only begotten
son of Elohim in the flesh, even the Father of all. Second, I know that his
gospel and ministry is the power of GOD unto salvation, for I was dead an in
him now I am alive. Which gospel is as simple as it can be, Faith in Jesus Christ
his merits and in no other. Repentance and baptism by immersion for the remission
of sin; and the bestowal of the gift of the Holy Ghost by the Lying of hands
under those with proper authority. I
have heard and felt the power of GOD made manifest in the ordinances of the
gospel for I have performed and conducted them. And the hope that is in us is that if we endure to the end we will be saved in his highest kingdom to dwell forever with GOD and the apostles, prophets, saints and holy angels. The
other doctrines of the gospel that we preach are only appendix to these and
cannot be understood by the natural man. For the carnal mind never knew GOD. Third, I have a testimony of his eternal
atoning sacrifice and therefore know that the LORD died on the cross to
redeem all mankind from the temporal death or to give resurrection to all, but that
he suffered even more, for our sins in the garden of Gethsemane when he bled by every
pore to redeem from spiritual or the second death but only for all those that repent or come to him with a broken heart and a contrite spirit; and are
baptized unto repentance and so forth. Fourth, I have a
testimony of his resurrection, as recorded and portrayed both in the bible and
in the Book of Mormon, for the LORD Jesus Christ is the Jehovah, of the Old
Testament, the Messiah of the New Testament, the resurrected deity of the Book
of Mormon and the glorified GOD of the Doctrine and Covenants. We bear that he did not receive of the fulness of the father in the beginning, but that he grew grace by grace before GOD. Our testimony of
him does not end on the cross or in the account of his resurrection in the New
Testament. And fifth, I bear witness of the
promise of his glorious coming, soon to be made manifest for the joy and sorrow
of many.
Now, we do not come to take from
you but to add to your historical knowledge virtue and a better hope. You also
believe in Jesus as we do, and many of you do repent of your sins and thereafter
endeavor to live honorable lives, for which I personally commend you, but you
lack a true and authorized baptism and the bestowal of the gift of the Holy
Ghost by the lying on of hands to know the truth as we know. This is why you do not believe beyond the historical Jesus. We love
to know about the historical Jesus as many of you do too, but that is not enough
for us, for that knowledge that the natural eyes can see and the natural mind
can gather can be lost. And he dis much more on him than what the historical account Jesus given of him for he is GOD of the whole earth; and he came to minister not only to the Jews but to the entire house of Israel. Christ did much more that what is written about
him, and the only way to know him is do as he did by the manifestations of the
spirit thru diligence and obedience to his laws and commandments.
ESUSNow, I have been imprisoned, taken, cast out, rejected, insulted, buffeted, sent to the pit, and my blood drawn without my consent as a result of my testimony of him. Because I am a doer of his words and not merely a hearer. I do not know the scriptures by memory as many of you do, nor do I plan what I would say, but I am given at the very hour what I will say like today. And I know that the knowledge I impart is not mine but Christ’s. And by doing his will I know that the doctrines he preached where not his but the doctrines of his father for the results are the same. And the sprit bears record for I Miguel, do not do nothing but what I have seen my father do, and I have seen others, even do greater things than Christ, even one of these is the prophet Joseph Smith Jr. for of this it is also written:
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.(New Testament | John 7:17)
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.(New Testament | John 21:25)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.(New Testament | John 14:12)
When I was a youth, I was very
unworthy and I had to rely on the Biblical Jesus as you call it. In other
words, I had to read and study much to learn the truth because I was not worthy
of the Spirit of God. And I learned or retained very little of what I learned
about him at a great effort. This is why
you or the Christian world cannot know anything beyond the Bible. You are fixed
in a historical Jesus. It because of my
disobedience the spirit of GOD could not dwell in me. But now I learn by faith
because of heavenly ministration that I receive often. The reason is that finally, after so many
failures, the LORD took me by the hand and made me to go thru the furnace of
affliction and I learned obedience by the things that I suffered. As a result I
know him as he is because I have suffered as he did, only in a very limited
fashion. I do not need to rely on the
scriptures or on the testimony of the living prophets to tell you what I am
telling you know. I now can speak in the name of the LORD as they did and do. And
so can you if you would but believe a little. I can speak with absolute
certainty. And I know that when the time comes you will also know what I know,
only that you would have forfeited many blessings or opportunities to have
serve the LORD with true intent. And
that may cost you a place in his kingdom.
The reasons many of you do not
believe in the restored is because of idolatry, wickedness and sectarian
traditionalism which keeps you in awful darkness. And to this end we are sent
to call you to repentance as we have been called to repentance so that you
enjoy the same or even greater blessings than us. For the Lord has spoken it
saying that darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the minds of people. He
is calling us all whether jew or gentile so that we all can speak in the Do not
have need to counsel each other and say, know the LORD, but that we all may
know him and speak with power and authority in his name. No educational degree or diploma of divinity
will give you the knowledge that we have of him, for the LORD does not put new
wine in old bottles nor does he put a new patch in a old rug. You have to be
willing to empty your glass of your old wine and allow the LORD to fill it with
new wine or else you will all perish.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.(Old Testament | Isaiah 60:2)No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse. And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.(New Testament | Mark 2:21 - 22)Verily, verily, I say unto you, darkness covereth the earth, and gross darkness the minds of the people, and all flesh has become corrupt before my face.(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 112:23)
And whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do good is of me; for good cometh of none save it be of me. I am the same that leadeth men to all good; he that will not believe my words will not believe me—that I am; and he that will not believe me will not believe the Father who sent me. For behold, I am the Father, I am the light, and the life, and the truth of the world.Come unto me, O ye Gentiles, and I will show unto you the greater things, the knowledge which is hid up because of unbelief.Come unto me, O ye house of Israel, and it shall be made manifest unto you how great things the Father hath laid up for you, from the foundation of the world; and it hath not come unto you, because of unbelief.Behold, when ye shall rend that veil of unbelief which doth cause you to remain in your awful state of wickedness, and hardness of heart, and blindness of mind, then shall the great and marvelous things which have been hid up from the foundation of the world from you—yea, when ye shall call upon the Father in my name, with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, then shall ye know that the Father hath remembered the covenant which he made unto your fathers, O house of Israel. And then shall my revelations which I have caused to be written by my servant John be unfolded in the eyes of all the people. Remember, when ye see these things, ye shall know that the time is at hand that they shall be made manifest in very deed. Therefore, when ye shall receive this record ye may know that the work of the Father has commenced upon all the face of the land. Therefore, repent all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me, and believe in my gospel, and be baptized in my name; for he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned; and signs shall follow them that believe in my name.And blessed is he that is found faithful unto my name at the last day, for he shall be lifted up to dwell in the kingdom prepared for him from the foundation of the world. And behold it is I that hath spoken it. Amen.(Book of Mormon | Ether 4:12 - 19)
Take it or leave it, I have given you an answer of the hope that is in me; this is my
testimony and I know before God angels and these witnesses that I speak with no
guile and I do it solemnly, humbly and as one having authority in the sacred
name of Jesus Christ, amen.
Attentively yours from your
contender, even
Michael the Archangel
Scribe
Miguel Angel Tinoco Rodriguez
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